tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post4636086830579208505..comments2024-01-31T10:38:51.039-08:00Comments on dulcetly...notes on a bookish life: whateverkristy bowenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03831806047965186923noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-36644541243060899452009-07-19T20:23:22.777-07:002009-07-19T20:23:22.777-07:00I think the fact really is that no one (repeat NO ...I think the fact really is that no one (repeat NO ONE) has the rights over the name Chicago Poetry (those words in any possible or conceivable combination). It doesn't belong to anyone. So any one has the right to use those. <br /><br />Our wish (as Chicago poets and Chicago citizens) is that whoever is running the particular domain do a good job of it. (Although it is entirely possible that someone from Timbuktu can register a Chicago Poetry domain and start publishing say porn on it, and really there is nothing anybody can do about it.)<br /><br />Though, sadly, the conduct of the people running the show (at both ends, CJ original remark, and the needless reaction, when it just as easily could have, should have been ignored) does not fill the community with any great degree of confidence. <br /><br />I will say this CJ runs a valuable site (to find out about Chicago Poetry events). And the second site now, is only a valuable addition to that purpose.crazyuddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11475404950547091301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-55772085267657826872009-07-11T12:30:26.966-07:002009-07-11T12:30:26.966-07:00Wow, I'm so sorry that you have to deal with a...Wow, I'm so sorry that you have to deal with all of this stress.<br /><br />Dancing Girl Press and all of your effort in literature in art seem valiant. I've been reading your blog for quite some time and it has inspired me to believe that I can start a micro press here in Canada. <br /><br />I feel sorry for this guy - too bad he's too uninformed to know that a blog name is not a domain name and that when artists co-operate and support each other everyone wins. Wow, to think of all the poetry he's not writing expending all of that hateful energy. <br /><br />Ultimately, you get what you give right?<br /><br />Take care Kristy. Good for you for sticking up for yourself.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256534154678025272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-54402421448186516322009-06-29T11:48:59.598-07:002009-06-29T11:48:59.598-07:00Typical, ignorant, Kristy Bowen non-response. Of c...Typical, ignorant, Kristy Bowen non-response. Of course there is an issue. The issue of why you are piggybacking off my domain name, for one. But, yes, it is tiresome trying to get through your brick wall of a head, so let's leave it at that.vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-28128867996158291612009-06-29T11:43:59.962-07:002009-06-29T11:43:59.962-07:00As I see it, there is no issue. And really this i...As I see it, there is no issue. And really this is getting sort of tiresome...kristy bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03831806047965186923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-73292308537137486852009-06-29T11:41:30.586-07:002009-06-29T11:41:30.586-07:00Furthermore, Bowen, you are USING all your friends...Furthermore, Bowen, you are USING all your friends to fight your battle for you, when you know damn well they don't have the time or ability to actually go back and learn the true history of it all. You incite them by telling them that I'm just some paranoid lunatic and they believe you and they go ahead and spout the venom at someone that they've never even met, all based upon your lies. What's worse is that you hurt me personally. Yes, I reviewed your book because I was a FAN of Kristy Bowen. I sat there at the Juried Reading and I cheered for you when you won. We had some little disagreement about some lousy $20 I asked for one year during a poetry fest. So what? I didn't hold that against you. Then all of a sudden last year during the Month of March you told me how much you hated me and you've been at me ever since, now even stealing my domain name. You make me afraid to promote small presses in Chicago out of fear I'll end up promoting another Kristy Bowen, who is going to turn around and use the support I offer against me. You make me afraid to review small press books because you've acted so amateur. And now you USE your friends, inciting them against me, for what purpose, to what end?vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-14087138805060151912009-06-29T11:36:43.575-07:002009-06-29T11:36:43.575-07:00What sarcasm? She still has to get past me and I h...What sarcasm? She still has to get past me and I have hair-pulling robots programmed for the chick fight, so I win. :)Evildolleyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04186106367498503699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-85371919288678831202009-06-29T11:29:33.617-07:002009-06-29T11:29:33.617-07:00Yeah, use your sarcasm to escape actually having t...Yeah, use your sarcasm to escape actually having to deal with the issues put in front of you. That always works for you, Bowen, doesn't it. Whenever someone confronts you with your own behavior, just spout some sarcasm. Textbook Bowen!vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-28256487438753972852009-06-29T11:28:06.743-07:002009-06-29T11:28:06.743-07:00oh hell, you're on to me..that was step one of...oh hell, you're on to me..that was step one of my plan for world domination...:)kristy bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03831806047965186923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-35204509118239072932009-06-29T11:15:06.953-07:002009-06-29T11:15:06.953-07:00Kristy Bowen, it is YOUR behavior that is indicati...Kristy Bowen, it is YOUR behavior that is indicative of a lunatic. You came to Chicago, used me to meet the people you wanted to meet, then you stabbed me in the back and now you're trying to take my place as the publisher of Chicago's poetry calendar. Now you are saying if a poet "rants" he's a lunatic. A poet? Can't rant! Get the hell out of Chicago and go back to whatever backward world you came from!vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-82094522366621042172009-06-29T11:10:59.396-07:002009-06-29T11:10:59.396-07:00as I said in the post, I have no idea about your m...as I said in the post, I have no idea about your mental instability, but your behavior is truly indicative of a ranting lunatic...kristy bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03831806047965186923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-55639880361837363352009-06-29T11:04:09.420-07:002009-06-29T11:04:09.420-07:00. . .and you hang out with a bunch of losers, real.... . .and you hang out with a bunch of losers, really. You guys think you are so smart but look at your own posts. The most intelligent thing you guys can come up with is "your poetry sucks" or some other lame insult. It's like I'm dealing with Romper Room here, which is surprising, because Bowen is suppose to be this big shot poet, yet every one her friends who have posted have spouted ugliness that would put anything I've ever said at chicagopoetry.com to shame. All of you guys need to look in the mirrors. You are stealing from people! Stop it. My right to the domain name Chicago Poetry is not up for discussion. That domain name is already taken, it has been taken for ten years. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT. And you continue to make fun of the mentally handicapped while protesting comments made about someone's weight. You continue to badmouth someone even after he's apologized. Man, you guys make my stomach churn. Trying to communicate with you guys on any type of civil or intelligent level is like trying to communicate with a bunch of children.vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-12343847372972151852009-06-29T10:58:52.296-07:002009-06-29T10:58:52.296-07:00You know, Kristy, he may have a point. The mentall...You know, Kristy, he may have a point. The mentally ill might be offended by their implied association with this clown. >;)Evildolleyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04186106367498503699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-88698081301882018302009-06-29T10:53:24.011-07:002009-06-29T10:53:24.011-07:00Yeah we'll see if your rolling your eyes when ...Yeah we'll see if your rolling your eyes when the search engines pick it up and people who are looking for you come to me instead. And, see, you just made fun of the mentally ill again. You are childish, Bowen. Grow up.vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-61108915390403745292009-06-29T10:51:03.800-07:002009-06-29T10:51:03.800-07:00*rolls eyes*
Obviously I was wrong...you're n...*rolls eyes*<br /><br />Obviously I was wrong...you're not crazy at all...kristy bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03831806047965186923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-31434941717838879452009-06-29T10:30:32.659-07:002009-06-29T10:30:32.659-07:00Yeah, and same shit from you. I'm sick and tir...Yeah, and same shit from you. I'm sick and tired of every time I complain about your total shit you call my sanity into question. If it is so okay for someone to steal someone else's domain name just because she doesn't like what he's doing with it, then welcome to wickedalicecalendar.blogspot.com<br /><br />Fair is fair!vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-51600643159390726652009-06-29T10:23:34.657-07:002009-06-29T10:23:34.657-07:00same shit, different day..same shit, different day..kristy bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03831806047965186923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-31673671749638006812009-06-29T09:06:59.191-07:002009-06-29T09:06:59.191-07:00Whatever yourself, Kristy, all your BS would be mo...Whatever yourself, Kristy, all your BS would be more convincing if you weren't blatantly piggybacking off my domain name in order to try to steal my audience. Develop your own audience! In March of 2008 you also bashed me at your blog while at the same time registering a "chicagopoetry" domain name. What was that all about? You pretty much made fun of the mentally ill and I don't recall ever hearing an apology from you, so as far as I'm concerned, I'm way ahead of you in the diplomacy department. In those posts last year you admitted you wouldn't even have met many of the people who helped you in your career if not for me, so how do you justify how you continually villify me? Isn't it true you just want to push me out of the picture so that I don't introduce other young women to important people, women who perhaps might compete with you for the prizes and publications you bid for? Is that how you have come this far? By cheating and stealing? You give feminism a bad name with your thievery. The way you behave it is no wonder so many people say derogatory things about you. You are part of a tiny, insignificant clique that won't even be here five years from now, so enjoy it all while it lasts.vaporaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506085763037119557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-75118620310286695132009-06-29T07:29:13.869-07:002009-06-29T07:29:13.869-07:00You know, it seems to be true that there is drama ...You know, it seems to be true that there is drama in every community. Unfortunate, but true. Even so...my lord. This CJ character is just a jackass. Setting aside the calendar issue (Aside - y'know...if it's important to you to have "The" calendar of events for "The" Chicago poetry scene, then the right approach is probably not to whine about the title or URL of the thing, as that makes one look like an idiot. End of aside.)....<br /><br />Um, where was I? Right, CJ just seems to be a tool. Dealing with tools is no fun at all, and I'm sorry you've had to waste so much time dealing with that one.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040471389243771725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-77848221778848012342009-06-29T05:25:43.279-07:002009-06-29T05:25:43.279-07:00Hello Kristy,
Your mindfulness in the face of CJ&...Hello Kristy,<br /><br />Your mindfulness in the face of CJ's rampage is deeply appreciated and admired. The implications of his behavior are not encouraging but you have certainly put him in perspective!Woman-Stirred Radiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02334696773830610484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-52379687343930328982009-06-28T19:36:44.906-07:002009-06-28T19:36:44.906-07:00Awesome. I've been reading through the blogs o...Awesome. I've been reading through the blogs of your fellow poets on this subject and it's great how supportive, rational and intelligent all responses have been. It really makes me happy and even more proud of you. Since I'm not exactly unbiased and I am neither a poet, nor part of any "scene" and not even living in the Chicago area these days, I feel as if I can be as irrational as I want to be without being directly affected by any venom spewed forth by others on the internets.<br /><br />FUCK YOU CJ! LEAVE MY SISTER ALONE!<br />And your "poetry" sucks too.Evildolleyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04186106367498503699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11262289.post-16042377340783212432009-06-28T10:10:48.351-07:002009-06-28T10:10:48.351-07:00Kristy -- I really appreciate hearing your thought...Kristy -- I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this issue. I agree that our speaking up has only caused him to look meaner and smaller via the comment box dialogues. It's also worth noting that not a single person has come forth to defend what he did; instead, every person who decides to comment shows him/herself to be reasonable and just.<br /><br />In your explanation of your Chicago Poetry Calendar site, you note, importantly, that there are MANY poetry scenes in Chicago. Of course there are -- it's the third largest city in the country! -- but CJ doesn't seem to see this, and is treating "Chicago Poetry" as some kind of monolith.<br /><br />So, I want to thank you, in the midst of all this, for caring about communities instead of claiming ownership over them!<br /><br />So sorry you have to deal with this. We all know the fantastic work you do for Chicago and U.S. poetry.beccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11261837432902612470noreply@blogger.com